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#1 is low level <-- LOL

my final version of Nightfight has all these criteria currect and it was at stage 2 and now they put it back to stage 1 and said it will have to be looked over again... i hope they take a good look at it and can tell me what needs fixed...

If new versions are submitted, the are reviewed as if they are brand new missions, it is the only way to be certain that a mission is given a full and complete review.

"1. Most common problems have been that player starts are not properly configured, causing the maps to not start, the client to spawn without a weapon or the client crashing."

Thats a bug in the editor. The devs isolated the problem and will supply the fix with the next patch.

I have been palying The Redemption Map created By trustlSeek and it looks pretty complete why is it not Fully Mission capable yet, whats the hold up all the comments are possitive and everyone I know loves the map so when will it be made available for honor servers. Nothing annoy's people more than playing for hours with nothing to show for it in the honor aspect that is. I know that we get the enjoyment but it means more when gaining honor too.

I agree with Raptor on this. I have been running it in UNAUTHORIZED mode becaue my host can't "get it right". They are supposedly talking with AA about it and nothing yet. My server is populated regularly on this map for about 20 hours per day on this map.

I made my 100 honor and don't much care about the points as I play more for fun now anyway.

I don't see much more Redemption can have done to it to be "fixed".

What I want to know is if there is a process where the "Experts", are sending feedback to the map authors so the maps can move forward to mission approval? Unfortunately Redemption has several items that need to be fixed. I like Redemtion also but there is still a lot of lag in the tunnels. Also I have had the OBJ fall through the map near the rock in the west gully. Are the "Experts" looking at our comments to help the author move ahead or are the comments hindering this process?

i want to play

I would like to know, What is the time line from getting it Authorized to Honor Status. Who or what Organization will be doing the Map Approval for Honor Status. You know have about 15 Maps that have been approved for Authorized Status, But we have not seen any for Honor Status.

where should we upload the mission brief ?

you can edit the mission briefing in the editor. at the top under tools you should have mission briefing editor
open that fill out the briefing ,save now its built into the map

These processes are too lonnnnggggggg

Any software development process is long. Effective communication would be the greatest improvement.

I don't think its fair to ask the reviewers to compile a list of what is wrong with every map given some of the junk that has been posted. It would be helpful to have a review process to to look at what's wrong outside of this site. There's nothing formal but LD's should be testing and correcting before uploading here.

Still have to wonder about the criteria, Redemption is an awesome map, both versions, well thought out and well in line with AA playing style. Any of the maps that do actually meet all of these criteria should be fast tracked past things like paint ball & disco.

3 issues here are all basic. I you have problems creating spawns from scratch, copy them from an existing one and modify them, setting mission brief can be done from one of the main menus. 3 go back to the drawing board. good maps are a LOT of work and can't be knocked off in an afternoon

I agree with you LongStone. It will be a long process. And that there needs to be a review process that will help to list the deficiencies of the maps. It is a somewhat clumsy system currently. Submit your map, people find and report the errors, you edit the errors from the map, then resubmit the map to start the whole process over again. There needs to be a more formalized process that will not require a return to the beginning. I think part of the problem is the worry ***** or cheats could be introduced later in the process if the map does not start over. Would it be possible to introduce an Alpha testing of the maps, by trusted players or groups, before all the work is dropped on the "Experts". This should reduce the load.

There is a sticky that I have posted at AA forum with a few recommendations, checklist and links.

http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=247953

I think we will never get a "Fully Mission Capable" map then.

So what happens when your status goes from Ready for Review to Locked???

this Map Rocks dude i realy would love to see this one :D

"So what happens when your status goes from Ready for Review to Locked??? "

Do not take offense at this. It means your map is not going to be approved even if you change it. Cough certain maps cough killcube cough that flying platform thing cough

"this Map Rocks dude i realy would love to see this one :D "

*****! Is the site being attacked by spambots?

Ok and 2 month after, we always wait for just one personnal map. Wow! expert test map or take fun on!!

lol, We want to play one too

Quote: "It is a somewhat clumsy system currently. Submit your map, people find and report the errors, you edit the errors from the map, then resubmit the map to start the whole process over again."

That's because many people do not test their maps before submitting and sometimes submit an Alpha version. Look for example the mission Trucking Depot. The author says "there is already a beta version on the ECHO6 website but that isnt as constantly updated". Some people doesn't understand the concept of Fully Mission Capable and others simple do not care, just want their maps to be displayed here.

We have many suggestions to create a category in Missions Depot for Alpha and Beta maps, but I don't think Pragmatic will create such a category.

To be continued...

I don't think they will because the have to review each submission. At least the current system force the user to start from 0 votes, which is good to discourage the uploading of 345 versions of the same map.

One thing I really think the Missions Depot should have is a tag for Alpha, Beta and Final maps. People will not stop uploading work-in-progress maps (unfortunately), so if at least we have a way to filter unfinished maps would be much better than browsing through several premature submissions to find a map that is worthy to vote.

Continuing...

Quote: "Would it be possible to introduce an Alpha testing of the maps, by trusted players or groups, before all the work is dropped on the 'Experts'. This should reduce the load."

That's the objective of Community Missions forum at AA website http://forum.americasarmy.com/index.php?c=23

People should publish their Betas there and test it a lot before submitting here. The concept of a "submission", like any kind of contest, is to submit a completed work with at least standard quality. For example, when you submit an image to a photo contest you expect to win, not to receive feedback why your composition is terrible.

To be continued...

Continuing...

IMO, Missions Depot was designed to be only a contest site, not a learning site. But why so many contestants do not use the forum to test and learn instead of Missions Depot? Probably because the visibility they receive and the lack of more formal guidelines like this thread.

Many contest sites for example have some guidelines that you have to read and agree before submitting. Unfortunately, I don't think Pragmatic will change the submission method, probably because they want to attract new mappers, but IMO is annoying to browse so many unfinished maps and doubled submissions.

Continuing...

I'm working on my map for a month and I don't have a Beta yet. My map is not a complex map, but has almost 3000 actors (including meshes, lights, objectives, brushes, volumes...). Designing is a lot of work, but the optimization and debugging fase (Beta) should not be less time consuming, because with all this stuff added to the map I will certainly miss something.

So, what you can expect from a map that someone released in the same day of other two missions? Missions Depot should have a feature that do not allow an author to upload a new mission until his previous submission is considered Mission Capable or denied.

Continuing...

The time the Panel of Experts needs to review all pending missions is more than enough to start a new project and do not reach the Beta stage.

Some people say that they have spent 50 hours building a map. I can't imagine a Dev quality map, fully mission capable, being designed in 50 hours. Maybe someone from developers team could say the average time they spend on a map...

Continuing...

Here is a thread about the process of releasing any kind of software, with some tips related to AA maps.

http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=247953

cool sounds good

{FRJ}ZarO!O get to the point and stop spamming.

How many devs / people are actually reviewing these maps and are they even bothering with the crap maps that people are submitting?

I think theres too many crap maps out there and im afraid good maps will be missed by users because of all the crap.

I cant be bothered looking through pages and pages of crap maps just to find good serious attempts at a map for America's Army.

These dudes that are submitting DEATH MATCH maps and just crap should be banned and deleted.

C'mon Devs, get a grip of yourself and give yourself a good shake.

Stereo.

Another thought that has already been mentioned..

Makes seperate sections for fun maps (not seriously expected to make it even to mission capable) and a section for serious people that have worked very hard on their maps.

Please for the love of god man

Stereo.

[-BBC-].Stereo, I'm not spamming. It was a long thought.

lol ok man.

Stereo.

The Last Authorized mission was on 1-25-07, 3 Weeks Ago. Are any New Missions going to be Authorized soon. I have Tested some Really Nice Maps, and they have been uploaded here for a bit but not Authorized.

More Authorized Missions coming shortly.

Also, we have had a rash of recent posts of Missions without Screenshots, which makes it difficult to do an initial review, so please update your Missions with Screenshots.

Thank you.

This is Just a Suggestion, On the Missions that are Uploaded, Can your category them. When they upload the mission it would ask if the mission is still Beta or a Final Version. It would make it a lot easier to view the missions to view and then not to have the mission show up 2 or 3 times as the Beta version bugs are fixed.

SF Weapons Storage v1.0 has the best documentation and information i have seen to date. Theres plenty of info and screenshots. I hope to see all maps come with this level of documentation and information as this will make it easier for the public to make a decision if unable to play the map itself.

Stereo.

how do i play the game im new so i dont know yet.

ilan5612 u must download the game first do that and then you can play seemeplayme.com or americasarmy.com/downloads

How can i play this new maps. I downloadet it but i don't how to play on this map. Please tell me !

I am real concerened about the number of votes the maps are getting recently. The votes indicate that very little america's army players are actually visiting the site and voting. I mean the votes on the newest maps since the last lot of missions got to mission capable status. The votes dont reflect the amount of players that play AA. I dont expect all people to vote but most.

There are thousands and thousands of AA players, where are the votes to reflect this?

Just a thought.

Stereo.

it funny game

ZarO!O -- thumbsup on the posts there ... well said. I've just finished heading up a 2 month effort by a four-man team from our clan, sculpting an expanded version of our favorite map (McKenna). Through that time, our team has been through around 50 major shared versions of the map (to say nothing of the multiple sub-versions while one designer was tweaking things prior to uploading it for the next designer to enhance it some more with his ideas).

One thing that this process has definitely done for me is to give me a renewed respect for all the work that the [Dev] team has done in creating the 38 or so multi-player maps (plus the training maps) available to us already!

That said, here's my question: How long does it normally take for recently-submitted maps and galleries to get added to the Missions and Galleries lists? The latest entries in either board are a week old.

can some one tell me how to get to trainig on americasarmy.com

you should be posting that question in the AA forums, not here. The training is "in game" and not online.

Before you post an unfinished map here to the "mission capable" process make sure it has been tested.

aamappers.com is supporting testing for original maps being developed for AA (no painball, fantasy or clones of existing AA maps).

As a member you can upload your own map as needed and it will be placed into the map rotation for testing.
We also provide feedback and some reference materials and some basic reporting on map activity.

I'm very glad that such high standards are being put in place; I would expect no less from the United States Army.

Please be patient, everyone. The more time that is spent reviewing these maps, the greater the chance of us seeing only the highest quality product reaching the game.

this game rocks.

im still confused on how you actually play one of theses levels on a server. i have downloaded some of the maps a while ago. they were all on the 2nd stage. i went to the browser and none of the maps were there. plz help. i dont know how to activate the maps or reach them once i have downloaded them. thanks!

are there any maps with drivable humvees yet?

Hi, This is addressed to the Devs or whom ever runs the website.

When can we expect more news, I am tired of checking this site and having to look at new crap submitted maps lol.

NO SERIOUSLY ALL, WELL DONE FOR ATLEAST TRYING!!!

KEEP IT UP

Thanks

Stereo.

"1. Most common problems have been that player starts are not properly configured, causing the maps to not start, the client to spawn without a weapon or the client crashing."

This I find annoying. I and a friend have been working on a map for two months, taking our time making sure things work properly, look decent, etc. This has been totally created from scratch, no copying bits or pieces from other maps what-so-ever. Now, with spawns having been in this map for quite some time, fully functional, we begin tweaking the lighting to put on the final touches and it spawn bugs! Irregardless of what the map looks like, how well its constructed, whether or not it has the briefing completed, etc., it would never pass 'inspection' simply because of some BUG that the editor has inherent in it. WHEN might this supposed 'fix' or 'patch' be released?? Rather difficult to submit something for consideration when the program itself hiccups, deeming the map unworthy. *sigh*

so i take the new maps are not ready yet!>? like flood gate ect?

But when are we going to see HONOR GAINING maps?

I have been trying to get redemption and prison stryke onto my server. I have read the faq and followed the directions as listed to change my tours.ini on the server machine but still have not had any luck getting the maps playable on my server. what am I missing? I run the server on my own machine. I don't lease one. Its not an honour server as I have not found an affordable solution for getting it listed as honour and some of my users enjoy the fact that I allow them to choose what weapons they wants etc (I allow cheats part of the time) however when we are playing serious gamers I shut those options off.

If someone could offer me some direct assistance I would really appreciate it. please email me at keeperman@ohg-clan.com I'm not a noob to ocmputers but am feeling very noob that I can't seem to get this going.

With AA 2.8.1 coming out with 4 New Maps. But None of them are from AA Users that uploaded there maps here. It has been 3 Months and none of the User created Maps are Honor and some of them have made it authorized status.

I really feel bad for these Players that are making these great maps and have to wait and wait and wait to hopefully see if there map will get a authorized status. Will any of these maps ever make it to Honor Status?.

how can i download this map and i wanna have sf airport too

You Can Download SF Airport from this Link:

http://swak.se/index.php?page=maps

The 4 new maps are very poor quality, its as if they have just stuck them in there so they can fix some ***** and the editor if theres anny updates on that.

VERY POOR INDEED

Stereo.

Gameplay element is good though, First impressions are not good i must say. Maybe its just me that was expecting a little more perhaps?

Stereo.

wdt is this about some one tell me plz!!!!!!!!!!

Its been 2 months since our last news update. Is there any new news to what is going on with these new Maps and what progress on when these maps will have honor status?.

Why are some maps being skipped and approved as yellow
when others have been in line first?
Like my map has been here almost 60 days and it says this still "Found 1 mission with status of: Pending"
Some maps where submitted about 30 days after mine and have less votes but have a yellow status already.... what is going on here? i do know the design of my map isn't much
but alot of players pc's can't handle 4000 brushes, 1800 static meshes and 60 projectors. and this map would be playable and fun for them instead of FPS skipping into next year!!!
staff?

why can i play

how do you download the americas army game

u must download the game from seemeplayme.com or americasarmy.com/downloads or just google it!!!!

u guys there are alot of ppl who need help lets focus on them and then talk about the new maps!!!!!!!!!!

i need help i cant dnld it syas this: The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

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Well it's been like 10 weeks now that my map has been sitting here. Also can I have an answer to above question? thanks.

Yes someone plz answer my question i have the link put there is an eroor on page every time i try to dnld i am a good player and im hoping to start my clan soon if theres anyone who would like to help it would surely be appreciated plz help a soilder.

thnx
scarface

my friend is gonna type his problem too. help him as well! thnx!!!!!!!!!!!

I know scarface and I need help downloading AmericasArmy because I have the link but a error on page every time we are the RECON WARRIORS.

HEY! i ve got an idea how about we all meet in a chat room say like voiceandvideochat.com or something else and we can discuss our problems more with meaning.

thnx!!!!!

by war-blood-scarface
05/01/2007 at 04:06PM (EDT)
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HEY! i ve got an idea how about we all meet in a chat room say like voiceandvideochat.com or something else and we can discuss our problems more with meaning.

thnx!!!!!
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That's the objective of the AA IRC chat. There is already an official chat channel for map developers, just look for #aa-mapping channel.

well i dont put the mission brief, coz my english is not good enough, so , my maps will never gonna be mission capable :P

I'm new to America's Army. I was wondering from some of these posts, are some of the maps played created by the players or are they all America's Army created? I'm assuming that by this posting area we as players can create maps. Correct?

You can but they will never get played.....

how do i join into a game im new hellllp

how do i play this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i cant find a mission

1 cant understand anyth1ng about th1s game

where is the training?

help i dont know how to start anything on the game

Ok. I submit a map. my clan wants to play it on uor server but it doennt show up in the user created maps. why? how long will it be before my clan can download a version that can be loaded into the server and testes with many players?

^CoC_Enforcer

Gee, sorry about that last post. lets try that again shall we LoL. I submit a map. My clan wants to play it on our server but it doesn’t show up in the user created maps. why? How long will it be before my clan can download a version that can be loaded into the server and testes with many players?

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can someone please help me. i would like to work with the mission editor, but i don't know where to get it. If you can, please send me a private message, and link me to where to download it. btw, does it come standard with the 2.8.3 version because i am using the 2.6 version.